Episode 54 - Is A.I. Really Photography Part 2

Speaker: Welcome to the Photography Breakthrough Podcast.

Speaker: I'm your host, Matthew Jordan Smith, and this week we're diving deeper into the AI conversation.

Speaker: Last week, we went into Part One.

Speaker: This is Part Two, going deeper into the AI conversation as it deals with photography.

Speaker: This is a big one, and it deserves more than just one episode.

Speaker: We'll start today with this question: Is AI, as it relates to photography, simply just another tool?

Speaker: Supporters of AI imagery often say that every major technological change in photography has been met with resistance.

Speaker: And I'll agree with that.

Speaker: That's very true.

Speaker: I remember that switch from film to digital.

Speaker: I remember the beginning of Photoshop and all the conversations around both.

Speaker: Let's go back to when photography first appeared on the scene.

Speaker: At that time, some painters believed it was mechanical and lacked artistic value.

Speaker: When small cameras became common, some photographers believed they would lower standards.

Speaker: When autofocus arrived, some professional photographers considered it a shortcut.

Speaker: And when digital cameras began replacing film, many photographers, and I was one of them, argued that digital capture was not real photography.

Speaker: That doesn't seem that long ago.

Speaker: Not really.

Speaker: Let's not forget about Photoshop.

Speaker: When Photoshop became widespread, people said photography was losing its connection to truth.

Speaker: Maybe that was the beginning of the slide toward looking for perfection.

Speaker: But let me not get off track because that's a totally different conversation.

Speaker: But I want to go back to those last few words: losing its connection to truth.

Speaker: That's what people were saying about Photoshop.

Speaker: And now AI is producing the same kind of reaction.

Speaker: From this perspective, artificial intelligence is simply another stage in the evolution of image-making.

Speaker: The camera does not create the image.

Speaker: The photographer, or the person directing the process, still makes creative decisions.

Speaker: They determine the concept, they describe the subject, they refine the language, they choose the framing, and they adjust the atmosphere.

Speaker: And they reject weak results.

Speaker: They have the ability to continue or not continue until the image communicates what they want it to communicate.

Speaker: In that sense, prompting on a computer or device can be viewed as a form of direction.

Speaker: The system becomes a production tool.

Speaker: And this does raise a fair question.

Speaker: If photographers have always used technology to execute ideas, why should AI be treated differently?

Speaker: After all, many commercial photographers have already highly constructed their images.

Speaker: A beautiful campaign might involve intensive pre-production, digital retouching, compositing, skin work, color grading, background replacement, and multiple layers of post-production.

Speaker: A car advertisement may contain an automobile photographed in one location, a background photographed somewhere else, a sky created separately, reflections added in post-production, and lighting effects that were never physically present.

Speaker: Is that still photography?

Speaker: Most people would say yes, although it may be heavily constructed photography.

Speaker: So maybe this is the real question: Where is the line?

Speaker: Is it based on how much of the image was photographed?

Speaker: Does an image need to be ninety percent camera-made?

Speaker: Fifty percent?

Speaker: Ten percent?

Speaker: And what happens if the photographer captures the subject but generates the background?

Speaker: What happens if the background is real, but the clothing is changed with AI?

Speaker: What happens if the face is photographed but the body is generated?

Speaker: And what happens if ten photographs are combined together and AI fills the spaces in between them?

Speaker: At what point does the work stop being photography and become something entirely different?

Speaker: I get it.

Speaker: None of these are easy questions.

Speaker: And anyone pretending there is one perfectly clear boundary is ignoring how complicated modern image-making has become.

Speaker: The lines are getting blurry.

Speaker: Is there a difference between AI-generated imagery and AI-assisted imagery?

Speaker: One way to make this conversation more useful is to stop treating all uses of AI as identical because they're not.

Speaker: There is a significant difference between AI-generated imagery and AI-assisted photography.

Speaker: AI-generated imagery may begin without any original photograph at all.

Speaker: A person enters a description, and the system produces an image based on patterns it has learned.

Speaker: AI-assisted photography begins with a photograph or with a photographic process and uses AI somewhere in the workflow.

Speaker: For example, a photographer may use AI to remove dust from a scan, reduce digital noise, improve focus, extend the edge of the background, or help organize thousands of photographs.

Speaker: Maybe even search an archive, create captions or keywords, select images with eyes closed or technical problems, translate creative directions for an international team, or visualize an idea before a photo shoot.

Speaker: Or create a mood board or lighting reference.

Speaker: Those uses of AI have advanced the creative process for photographers but do not automatically turn the resulting work into AI-generated imagery.

Speaker: Because photographers have always used tools to improve efficiency.

Speaker: And that's different.

Speaker: The important questions are: What did the photographer actually capture?

Speaker: And what did software change?

Speaker: What if we stopped using software altogether?

Speaker: Would that be pure photography?

Speaker: I'm just asking.

Speaker: Is any change or alteration in the image changing the image or the meaning of the image?

Speaker: And is the audience being given an honest understanding of how the work has been made?

Speaker: And do they care?

Speaker: I believe disclosure becomes especially important when AI creates significant visual elements.

Speaker: If a sky was completely generated, say so.

Speaker: If a person was created who never existed, say so.

Speaker: If the location is fictional, say so.

Speaker: If the clothing was replaced, say so.

Speaker: You get the idea.

Speaker: If something is in the image that does not exist, say so.

Speaker: If the image is a composite of photography and artificial intelligence, describe it accurately.

Speaker: This does not diminish your work.

Speaker: In fact, transparency may strengthen the work because the audience is able to evaluate it on honest terms.

Speaker: The problem begins when synthetic imagery is presented as evidence of a real event.

Speaker: Or when an AI-generated person is presented as an actual portrait subject.

Speaker: The last few years, we've been witnessing AI-generated images winning photography competitions without disclosing how they were made.

Speaker: That's a problem.

Speaker: I believe it's also a problem when a photographer sells an experience based on a result that did not come from the skill or process being advertised.

Speaker: That is where the issue becomes more than a creative debate.

Speaker: It becomes a matter of trust.

Speaker: But here's the great unknown.

Speaker: Does the creative process matter?

Speaker: Let's go deep into this conversation.

Speaker: Why are some photographers so protective of the word photography?

Speaker: Is it simply insecurity?

Speaker: Is it fear that AI will take jobs?

Speaker: Perhaps that is part of it.

Speaker: But there's also something more important.

Speaker: The process of photography carries meaning.

Speaker: Imagine two images that look almost identical.

Speaker: The first is a portrait of a woman made after the photographer spent hours speaking with her, understanding her story, creating a safe environment, shaping the lighting, directing her expression, and waiting for the perfect instant when she revealed something honest.

Speaker: The second image was generated with a written description.

Speaker: Visually, the two images may look equally beautiful.

Speaker: But are they the same kind of achievement?

Speaker: I, for one, don't believe they are.

Speaker: One comes from a human encounter.

Speaker: The other comes from a constructed simulation.

Speaker: There's a big difference.

Speaker: Now, again, that does not mean the generated image has no value.

Speaker: But the value comes from a different source.

Speaker: In photography, the relationship to reality is part of the meaning.

Speaker: When we look at a portrait of my friend Aretha Franklin or Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey, part of the power comes from knowing that the photographer was there with that person.

Speaker: There were things happening outside the frame.

Speaker: The photograph is not simply an arrangement of features.

Speaker: It's an encounter.

Speaker: It carries time and presence.

Speaker: It says this person stood here.

Speaker: This light touched them.

Speaker: Their expression occurred.

Speaker: And the photographer captured the instant.

Speaker: AI can create the appearance of presence.

Speaker: But appearance and presence are not the same thing.

Speaker: This difference becomes even more important in documentary work.

Speaker: If an image claims to show a war, a protest, a natural disaster, or a historic event, the viewer needs to know whether the image records something that happened in real life.

Speaker: Without that trust, photography loses its role as evidence.

Speaker: We already live in a time where people question whether images are real and whether video is real.

Speaker: As synthetic imagery becomes more convincing, photographers who document reality may need to become even more explicit about their process.

Speaker: The camera-made photograph may actually become more valuable, not because it looks different, but because its origin can be verified.

Speaker: So, what about the world of commercial photography?

Speaker: Because this may be one of the most affected areas by AI.

Speaker: Why?

Speaker: Because brands often want speed.

Speaker: They want variety.

Speaker: They want lower production costs.

Speaker: And this is scary because AI helps in all those situations.

Speaker: You see, brands want the ability to change colors, locations, models, products, and campaigns without organizing an entirely new shoot.

Speaker: It saves them a massive amount of money.

Speaker: And yes, AI can offer a lot of that.

Speaker: A company may be able to create multiple campaigns before even hiring a photographer, if at all.

Speaker: It may be able to replace a traditional background without building a set.

Speaker: It may create product variations for different markets.

Speaker: A brand may be able to generate images from internal presentations, social media tests, or preliminary advertising.

Speaker: That reality is already changing how photographers need to position themselves.

Speaker: Will advertising or commercial photography exist in five years?

Speaker: We don't know.

Speaker: How would the public react to seeing images of products where there isn't one real element in the work?

Speaker: Competing with AI only on the ability to make a polished-looking image may become increasingly difficult.

Speaker: So, what becomes more valuable?

Speaker: Your perspective.

Speaker: Your reputation.

Speaker: Your ability to work with real people.

Speaker: Your ability to direct.

Speaker: Your understanding of human emotions.

Speaker: Or the ability to lead a team, to create trust, and to solve problems on set.

Speaker: Maybe now you're understanding that photographers need to stop selling only photographs.

Speaker: We need to sell the intelligence, the experience, the relationships, the authorship, and the human encounters behind the photographs.

Speaker: AI can produce endless visual options.

Speaker: But endless options do not automatically create significance.

Speaker: A client does not always need more images.

Speaker: Sometimes the client needs the right image that makes a real connection.

Speaker: This is where photographers must become stronger.

Speaker: So, what's the future?

Speaker: No one knows.

Speaker: Right now is August 2026.

Speaker: Where will we be in August 2027?

Speaker: Only time will tell.

Speaker: Until next week.

Speaker: Bye for now.